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[QUOTE="Dorugremon, post: 3026949, member: 94033"] Only because the word "gambling" has negative connotations attached to it. Poker is still wagering money on uncertain outcomes, therefore gambling. As for gambling, your bets can have: [LIST] [*]Negative EV: you get back less than the true odds [*]Neutral EV: you get the true odds [*]Positive EV: you have an overlay[/LIST]Most games of chance have -EV unless there is a defect in the game that can change that. Such would include counting cards at Blackjack, due to the outsized influence of ten-valued cards. Clocking the wheel at Roulette could also be +EV since bets are allowed even after the ball is in motion, or influencing the dice at Craps. You can also have +EV at sports betting, horse racing, and Poker if you have the skill to spot overlays. In these situations, the house doesn't have any stake in the outcome. "Investing" in the stock or commodities markets is also gambling, even though Wall St will never admit it: it's still wagering on uncertain outcomes. Here, too, it takes skill to find "good investments" which really is finding overlays which are possible for the same reason: your broker has no stake in your results. [/QUOTE]
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