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Message: [QUOTE="finaltable1, post: 5352596, member: 187503"] You're still not getting it. You see, we're paying price each second of our life. 100 year life is 24h * 365d * 100years = 876.000hours. Your potential 100 year life is 876K hours. That's your stack of chips. You're paying ante every second of your life. Some time has passed already, 30% is sleep time... Will you live to 100 years? Washing in the shower, brushing your teeth, food, sex, poker, street, job, vacation = all of these things will eat your time. We live in the capitalism, each object has a price, so when objects(items) have been created they have value and must be sold to extract the profit. This is how you think about poker = bets must have value. Now let's say that some company, like Boeing for example... Boeing makes planes. Boeing has 4 factories in 4 different places, one factory makes wings, other one makes electronics, 3rd factory makes body, 4th factory assembles it all together. SO Do you understand why these 4 factories of the same company are not paying money to each other for the parts of the plane? These 4 factories are the 4 poker players, they're united by the same goal, and they don't want to extract profit from each other. SO their policy is to be united and work against their opponent = market. They are a team that works for or against their consumer. In your example, with free chips provided by the pokerstars, you falsely believe that you're on the same team with pokerstars. You are a consumer, Pokerstars has a goal to extract the profit and their main instrument is the rake. PokerStars is interested in teaching you how to play poker, but they're not interested in letting you play poker for free, they will be using all available methods to extract profit from you while you're using their software. In general poker is a great game even if there is no interest or profit involved. IF you're playing SnG game with 5 of your friends, if you'll be pushing all in each hand, then you may find yourself being observer really soon, while others are still playing... this will be your price. Can you play football without ball and without feet? Yes you can, you can play FIFA on PlayStation and you'll be using your arms and pixels at your screen, and you will believe that you're playing football... There is a table version of football also.. So assuming it all: Everything has value, cause if you spend time for it, then you;re paying with your time. You can even calculate the price of whatever you're doing, cause there is average hourly income rate for any country. Bets in poker can have monetary value, or abstract value or no value at all, except for the time. Such are objective facts. While your thoughts are very subjective. My point can be explained even using much more simple logic: "It can be just because it can" [/QUOTE]

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