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Message: [QUOTE="Bowman, post: 2378815, member: 90637"] Well bluffing is an art, nothing about luck to do with that. If someone folds or calls your bluff/fake bluff then do you consider that to be luck. As if someone else, anyone else, they would have done the opposite. Is that bad luck or good luck. Sometimes there is no luck or skill involved. And that happens very frequently imo. For instance, maybe im there to have fun or pass time. Maybe I feel lucky so I will play my crap which turns into gold. All at your expense. So I consider poker to be all skill. Luck is nothing, its going to happen or not happen. If one loses, they say they had no luck. But what if with those winnings you would have bought something that caused a catostraphy. Is that not good luck that you lost. Learn to play poker, have a good mind and go from there. Luck, who need's it. [/QUOTE]