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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 2395205, member: 23910"] No such thing as fate. And what everyone always ignores about Doyle winning the Main Event twice with T2 is that you've got to be heads up to win any tournament, and heads up, just about any hand goes. It was just random chance that it happened to be that same hand two years running. I've won tournaments with T2 before, doesn't mean it was fate. Aside from that the breakdown of skill and luck depends very much on the player and how skilled they are. Someone like Darvin Moon making the final table of the main event was almost all luck, because he had very little skill. In Phil Ivey's case he needs less luck because he's got a lot more skill. [/QUOTE]