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Message: [QUOTE="Peteski84, post: 6498296, member: 1006698"] My initial point was the difference in how luck affect the type of game. In poker there are similarities to a lottery, with the cards in the deck dealers holds being unknown this being the same as picking a number out of a hat and hoping it matches yours. In chess there is none of this, no reliance on the whimsy of luck, fate or divine intervention. Its entirely up to the two playing as to the outcome of come of a chess match. I enjoy poker and i am not say there is no skill involved, there is plenty of it in many aspects of the game. It is plentiful of tactics and style but luck has a high contributing factor. The best hand on the table can easily be beaten by the worst hand on the table, we've all seen it. I see you are very defensive on this matter no need to be so. I assume luck never plays a factor in your games and you must be positive that you only win with skill and skill alone. Good for you, you keep doing that. [/QUOTE]