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[QUOTE="fletchdad, post: 1964621, member: 65205"]
nope.

^^^^ yep.

@gus, people have  the right to disagree with you. I would suggest you refrain from your arrogant sarcasm and try to look at the points made in an objective way. The reason most people join a poker forum is to engage in discussions and hopefully to gain insight that they had not had prior to the discussion.

Learning will not happen to people who already have all the answers.

And, to comment on some of the discussion here, math is important. Very accurate reads pre are almost impossible. Estimating ranges is not. It is the reads on a player that help to define their range postflop according to their actions. And this is where math become a very important tool. Juts having a read on a player will not help you determine if you can make a +ev play if you dont know how to calculate if that play could be + ev or not. And your example about putting someone on AJ is a bit silly IMO. Can you really put someone on exactly that hand OTF??????
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