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Message: [QUOTE="Madness_does, post: 1560605, member: 17194"] [b]good post[/b] When dealing with odds I would say, only go by live play. You cannot take a pro player and ask odds for online poker, you would want to ask them odds on live poker, any pro that tells you odds for an online game is either on drugs or they are no pro at all, LOL or owns the poker site. its very fun to talk to a real pro that does it for a living, I have had that chance, no big names that you see on tv, but a guy that does it for a living, sure as hell makes more money than I ever have, even the semi pros I have talk to all say the same thing, they dont play online poker " for big money that is"":, I cant blame them, my bro is semi pro and very good, I told him which is no BS I played 20 games of sngs and got beat 7 times by 4 of a kind when I went all in, hey I had a good hand too, but the funny part which is not so funny is he laughed, in 40 years he has hit 4 of kind 1 time in live play, he has hit a royal, but for a pro that grinds or is staked, they know dam well there bread and butter is, its in live games. Here is some odds for yah. full tilt: AA pre flop beat 21 times in a row. Live play 1 time. KK: beat so many times online, I cant remember, live play not yet. I did play a live game 4 weeks ago and saw AA get beat by KK, very rare but it happens. after my AA 21 times row happened, I said ok maybe my bad luck is over, nope went for another 11 AA cracked in a row. Hell I lost 20 bucks last night on full tilt, full house against full house. he had K4 full I had K3 full. that bull shiiit just does not happen in live play and when it does it is a rare time. I have always said that if brick and mortar casinos were to produced the bull shiiit action odds that online rooms do, you would see on the nightly news dealers or casino owners getting shot to death, at point blank range. Cause anyone that does does simple math would know something is dam wrong with this picture. If you really want to know the odd of online poker, I would go down and grab a cup of coffee, hit up all the old ladies at the bingo parlor and they can get you right on track, cause that were your odds would come in to play, hell you never know you might get lucky, cheers from madness. [/QUOTE]

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