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Message: [QUOTE="Makwa, post: 922178, member: 27402"] I dont think luck enters into it at all if you are gaming, not gambling. All you will see is variance if you keep playing an optimal game, and a graph that rises to infinity. I agree with others we have no real definition of the terms here so we are all speaking from different directions and there can be no consensus as to the orignial question, but 'luck' as it is commonly referred to plays no part in ones long term success as a poker player. Ask Stu Ungar (RIP), Chris Ferguson, or the countless others who make a living by using their skills, not relying on luck. [/QUOTE]