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[QUOTE="N.D., post: 925985, member: 30036"]
Guys, skill isn't crazy glued to getting good cards!  Someone was mentioning an ad that asks if it's a coincidence that there are so many familiar faces at final tables.  If those familiar faces relied solely on getting good to great cards, they wouldn't make it to the final table.  Skill isn't just knowing what to do when you've got the nuts, it's knowing what to do when you don't.  Knowing when to fold without a winning hand, but conversely, knowing when you can win with a losing hand, and doing so.

Arguably, the pros, and not just the big name ones, have honed their skills to a higher level than the average player.  Add natural talent and you've got consistent winners.

Look at Phil Ivey.  His bluffs are beautiful.  I love watching him push a player who's in the same stratosphere as his off of the better hand.  Sometimes he'll do it, and it works, and I can't figure out how it works.  The board doesn't show any obvious hands that will beat his opponent's, but he takes the pot anyway, and it's a sizable pot.  He's thinking four moves ahead and several hands ahead at the same time.  The guy's a genius.  Oh and I guess it doesn't hurt that he's capitalizing on his image.  Good for him, but that's only one example of skill, I mean sometimes the skill's in the fold, and there are oh so many other examples, and I'll stop now because I'm rambling like an old man with Tourette's and Alzheimer's.
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