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Message: [QUOTE="widowmaker89, post: 877158, member: 37427"] I'm not sure I completely agree with the 12:1 OOP with a hand you are strickly playing for set value but i agree that folding here is a mistake. OOP I like to call if the amount I have to call is 20:1 if Im heads up against average player, but I may be being to conservative here and 12:1 may be more profitable against any TAGS.. Now if its a 7/2 who stacks with TPTK or overpair hands then that can be lowered since he is probably willing to stack if you hit your set, which you wil 1 out of 8. There is huge value in set mining at lower limits since most people wont be able to let go of there overpairs or TPTK hands. So to answer if my opponents stack is 20x the amount I have to call im calling with any pair in most circumstances. [/QUOTE]