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Message: [QUOTE="zachvac, post: 749125, member: 26306"] Haven't played the game but I'm pretty sure in most games the high and low are separate, as in you can play an A as low for the low and high for the high. But as laid out you run into problems like this. I would aggree with you, with the caveat that if someone had for example 9922x they would beat you. The other question is when do you have to declare your hand. Does the person with the A of spades get to see everyone else's cards before declaring? Like say you had AA884 and the 4 was a spade. If someone else had the 2 or 3 of spades you would obviously play the A as the low spade but if no one had the 2 or 3 of spades and you needed the AA to play as high pair to win the high you would use the 4 as your low spade. See my question? [/QUOTE]