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Message: [QUOTE="SwoleRake, post: 1973926, member: 92031"] Thanks alot, just googled ABC texas hold em strategy, have alot to read haha. Ah, okay many factors I see, I always thought it was just the pot odds percentage versus the percentage of outs and if your outs are higher you call or raise. [B] If on the flop & not allin you should make your flop decision by comparing Pot odds to 2 x outs and then on the turn 2 x outs. [/B] So make the decision for the flop always 2 times our outs for both pre-turn and after the turn card is placed down? Thanks so much guys. [/QUOTE]