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Message: [QUOTE="icemonkey9, post: 1248407, member: 32963"] Sorry for Belgo's post Makwa, I assume you were looking to get some actual advice and not a smarmy comment. I've read through FP's post myself and recently changed up my game a bit, specifically adapting it to Full Ring, but the *theory* is what's important. Are you playing 6max or Full ring is the first question ... but seriously regardless, let's just say you are playing full ring. if you are in the first 3 positions you should be super tight. what that means is up to you but take a good look at pokerstove and explore what those percentages actually mean. The top players at full ring play between a 11/9 and a 14/12 style (typically). As you get farther along in position you theoretically open up more and more and more. Again these numbers are for theory because I know you need some tangible information to make the theory real. "Technically Speaking" an 11% range includes AA-77, AKs-A9s, AKo-ATo, and hands like KQ-KTs, KQo, QJs, QTs. Now, if you play an 11/9 game (super nit) does that mean if you are on UTG+1 you open up with KQo? Probably not, that's a hand you have to play in late position. To reiterate, you really should look at pokerstove if you are interested in what these percentages mean ... because it will [B]REALLY help you gauge what is inside someone's range[/B]. Well, I can say if your VPIP and PFR are 18/6 the problem looks like you are calling too much and raising preflop too little. If you do some data analysis you can see that top winners typically have the range I mentioned of 11/9 to 14/12 but usually the VPIP and PFR percentages are only 2-4% different. It's time to tighten the belt preflop a little and when you get in a hand, be the initiator and not the caller. I wish I could be more specific but I wanted to put something up that would help you that wouldn't take 4.5 days to write. As I think of more or as people chew up my post, I'll post again. [/QUOTE]

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