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Message: [QUOTE="Makwa, post: 1249355, member: 27402"] This is a great answer, txs, for full ring tho. I was trying to follow up on FPs thread which is 6 max. Well said for full ring tho... Im not sure how to get pokerstove to show ranges... Of course, but the original thread and my question was about numbers overall (i.e. PT3 or HEM stats, not table dynamics). If you read FPs thread, it is largely about aiming at/examining numbers, and it is not something one can do overnight. This type of stats introspection can be quite time consuming and exhaustive actually. And no, I dont think the numbers are the be-all-and-end-all answer, but they are benchmarks that can be used to examine ones game. That is a lifetime process, not an overnight one. :smile: Txs very much for the reply to the question. Yes, there are optimal stats within each style, and here we are talking nit/TAG, and yes I will note those numbers above. I find the BB of 11/5 to be quite the drop in percentages; was not expecting that. BTW above produces overall of 17/14, which is tighter than in FPs thread (ouch). OK txs. I am not trying to achieve stats so much as see how mine compare to others', to see what 'experts' think might be best ranges. If I see any wide discrepancy with my figures then there may be a hole that needs fixin'. Sorry Delta, went a bit over top there. Its frustrating when a whack of people all talk around a simple question rather than try to answer it. Anyway, I appreciate your input too, just not what I needed for this discussion. Again, sorry for the flame. Soo... we have above some numbers from ChuckT, and yes there are some ranges explained by FP in original thread, if anyone has any favorite numbers/ranges to add please do. Yes we know it gets tighter or looser as we go around the orbit. I am trying to get specific, because if we can say our opening range is 17-19/14-16 overall, we should be able to also produce the numbers for each position. Thats all. :) [/QUOTE]

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