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Message: [QUOTE="zachvac, post: 817235, member: 26306"] ok well first off unless you're playing extremely low I don't think it's possible to make a ton of money being a robot, unless of course you just have good table selection and just play tight and stack of donks. At 16-tabling I would NOT say I play like a robot, and I think the rare time I do find myself falling into that trap (not thinking about what I'm doing it, just sort of doing something because it seems right), it ends up killing me. So I don't care how many tables, you should never be playing like a robot. I think a HUD is essential to playing that many tables and that can help you get reads without the "feel" you would get playing 1-4. But of course the stats don't tell the entire story and win-rate per table*hour will suffer if you heavily multi-table but the goal is just to maximize win-rate per hour. As mentioned, 16. I'm not saying I'd play like a robot if I tried more, just that at this point in time not sure I could do any more without timing out and stuff. I haven't really had a problem of acting like a robot at all in quite a while. More profit, less profit/table. lol yes, just the fact that instead of almost constantly being involved in a hand, I'm practically never involved in one. I usually though play a much more LAG game at single tables and because of playing extremely aggressive with an extremely wide range of hands I get myself into marginal spots a lot more, but since I'm only at one table, I have the opportunity to think it through, act on reads, and make a decision. Also unless the table lets me run it over they get themselves into tough spots too, but for an example of some play just the other day playing at your table actually, the one where I claimed I was sewing, I called down a shove with 33, which was an underpair (this was the river). Playing against thinking players is good because I'm able to analyze how the player thinks, what kinds of hands he could have, and for example that one no real hand made any sense (basically he was pushing the entire way and then shoved when the board made a 4-straight). Similarly I've had moves made against me like that, A high hands calling down and being good, low pair, so basically the answer is that my game is so much different when 16-tabling vs. 1-tabling, and I think the LAGier game is more profitable, but even if it's not it definitely helps me improve, getting me into marginal situations with good players, which would be worth a hit to my profit, even though as I mentioned, I'm pretty sure playing LAG is better against good players because they would notice that I was playing TAG and not give me any action on my big hands. Usually when I'm making a decision, I'll be making folds as well so I don't run out on those tables. Basically for the sake of being able to think I'll fold all but premiums when I'm faced with a big decision on another table (I'm talking I'll fold AQ/JJ in EP). I have yet to see someone rag on me in the chat box, although that doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Basically the only table that would be timing out would be the table with the big hand, and even 1-tabling I'd usually ask for time there. But if someone has a problem with it, basically I don't care at all. I'm given the 30 second time bank and I have a right to use it. If I were 1-tabling I could use it whenever I wanted and if I'm 16-tabling I'll use it however I want. Using it now impacts it on future hands, so you'd think they'd like me using it, since then in a later hand that may be against them I'll have less time to think. Your premise is simply not true. First off preflop I'm using checkboxes a lot so I'm folding quicker than most. Second off as mentioned I'm only taking time when I have a huge decision. Sure once in a while with that decision I'll miss a table but once the time bank beeps at me I'll act so that's maybe an extra 2-3 seconds. The biggest change would be the big decision table. So I have a decision for all my chips and I use up a bit of that time folding other hands. No one is going to get mad at me thinking a bit longer in a decision for all my chips. And selfish? By the very nature playing poker is selfish. I want their money and I'm going to do everything in my power (within the rules) to get it. Just as a side note though, not sure about what most players do, but I play the fast tables, meaning we don't get a whole lot of extra time anyway. I think you get 15 seconds to act on each decision plus 30 seconds time bank per hour or something like that. Now sure using 15 seconds preflop before folding 52o would be a bit rude, but the fact is I don't do that. I've tried to do videos but the audio/video tracks completely screw up, I think I'll record one soon and I'll comment after the fact. Also, there are some who 24-table, and I'd have to say when I heard they did I was absolutely shocked, because they are some of the smartest players I'd found, were making a good amount of moves, and didn't ever use a whole lot of time. Basically though, the complaints about timing out are not exactly accurate, and even if they were, we all have a right to use the amount of time in our time bank. Don't see how that would be selfish. [/QUOTE]

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