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Message: [QUOTE="Jon Poker, post: 5314109, member: 229601"] Bingo! To hit your flush with 4 cards to it on the flop you are looking at around 36% equity. Now that means your opponent is still going to fade your draw 2/3s of the time. It's easy to forget these odds and just remember flopping tons of draws and missing them all - while just as easily forgetting the ones you drill when you needed them most :) For instance, I got it all in with KQ of hearts on a Jh - 10h - 6s flop - check raised the flop, got 3 bet and so I jammed and got snap called by Js9s - I couldn't believe it, thought my over cards were likely dead to QQ or possibly KK, AA - anyhow, all the outs in the world from the flop and I bricked out - giving away about 70% of my stack. The flip side to this - The tournament played on - I made the final table - semi bluff shoved on the turn and happened to get tank-called and drilled my draw on the river for a huge double up catapulting me into a solid 2nd place - this happened yesterday afternoon and I remember well the monster draw that missed - but for the life of me, I have no idea what I hit to double up at the final table...I think it was a backdoor flush but cant say for sure. Anyhow - as usual I am ranting - the point is draws are just that - DRAWS - in other words, are cards you need to hit to have a made hand - you are currently losing, you have no showdown value and will not get there most of the time. Best advice I can give to you - play the odds according to bet sizing and know when to fold - dont chase the rabbit too deep...that hole goes on forever. Good luck! Hope some of this helps [/QUOTE]

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