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Message: [QUOTE="donvic, post: 696570, member: 1562"] CHESTERFLICK and all, hi. CHESTERFLICK, you make a valid point when you state "The real question is if online poker is ALWAYS on the up and up.. well obviously the answer is no." for me too it is the honesty/integrity of poker sites that give creedence to a lot of negitive issues...including rigging. just recently yet another poker site goes down the tubes,jungle, and yet another time accounts are not paid. and as you know, this is not an exception...seems to be the rule. these sites operating in third world countries pretty much can do what they want. so, i'm not saying sites are rigged/jucied...just that i wouldn't put it past them (sure would be in character). and i'll need a lot more evidence to convince me otherwise. all this analizing everyone is doing...why not just just go the poker sites home page and look up the results of their rng "independent audits"? answer...you can't. best to all in 08, donvic [/QUOTE]