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Rigged: The AA test
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[QUOTE="grift, post: 746826, member: 34903"] I was kind of hoping that everyone else here with other theories about how a site may rig the game would see the basis that this sort of statistical analysis is for further investigation. Now that we've done something basic like this, why couldn't we move on to designing experiments for the more complex forms of rigging that have been discussed. For instance, let's say you've flopped a set, what are the chances the other guy also flopped a set? You've flopped a boat, what are the chances the other guy flopped quads? This type of hand would generate lots of action, and would always go to showdown resulting in us being able to see both players cards and thus generate usable data. Furthermore, with a couple of assumptions we could come up with a pretty accurate expected value for this type of hand. We could look through some hand history data and see how often on average people go into hands with certain pocket pairs. This is obviously not rigged, because the decision is totally on the user. Then we can look at how often these pocket pairs are dealt. Again, we're assuming this part is not rigged because we've just disproved that in this thread (see how useful this thread is becoming?). Now what do we have? We know how often people go to the flop with these pocket pairs, and we know how often they are dealt, so we can generate an expected value for these types of situations, and compare the results to the actual data. And thus we would be able to see if the poker sites rig in this manner. The only problem is we need to find a way to sort hand histories based on the actual showdown hand. This should be pretty easy using a simple script. I would probably write it in matlab because I'm more familiar with it, but if someone else here is proficient in a more efficient language for parsing files such as these they could post and let us know. Anyways, long rant, but this is the reason why I'm interested in 4 dogs analysis. Like I said before, it's a good start, and we can come up with lots of interesting things based on the "fair start" assumption proven by these data. [/QUOTE]
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