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Message: [QUOTE="ysmisc, post: 908068, member: 40983"] This is a long thread and it seems focused on AA. But I think this was a nice test but not a full test. I think a better test is (not sure if possible though) is to cover all HU (all ins on at least one of the players) and to see how many times the better hand won - The average win rate should be closely related to the average ratio of difference between hands. For example if at X HU games the average chance was ~80% for the good hand and ~20% to the low hand then I think the number of wins should be close to 0.8X to the strong hand as well. This way we will address all of these claims of "QQ lost to one over card". Please correct me if I am wrong (Mathematics is soooo complex sometimes :-)) and sorry if this was discussed before. [/QUOTE]