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Message: [QUOTE="Kinkikos, post: 647008, member: 26719"] There are people who say online poker sites are rigged. Many have experienced bad beats, and many of those are thinking human beings or highly intuitive ones who believe they have solid reason to be suspicious. There are also stats-minded people who present indirect evidence that is generally considered solid to show that cheating and/or rigging has gone on. And everybody who has played online poker for any significant amount of hands knows that there _are_ fly-by-night operations that abscond with people's money and resist cashout attempts, so who's to say some of them don't also rig their software? On the other hand, I haven't seen direct evidence of a poker site being rigged. Such direct evidence would be source code for the poker software as reviewed by a qualified expert, or possibly a debug dump from the server where the software is being run, again as reviewed by a qualified expert. NOTHING else counts as direct evidence. So people who say online poker is rigged are talking out of their butt. Meanwhile, there are people who scoff any time someone suggests that online poker might be rigged. Most likely resist the idea out of contempt for people who don't have their "insiderness" when it comes to winning poker play. A number are winning players and don't want to consider the possibility that they're winning unfairly. Others merely enjoy online poker and don't want to be confronted with the choice of either giving it up or being dupes. Still others have something to gain from the ongoing success of online poker in general and lie to themselves as to how it _must_ be an honest industry (the lie not being that it _is_ honest but that it _must_ be honest). And still others, I suspect, are planted in fora such as this one by poker sites themselves in order to ridicule and discredit those who clue into possible poker site dishonesty. And the people who insist online poker is _not_ rigged have no more direct evidence to support their position than the people who say it is. They're talking out of their rear end too. The fact is, almost no one, including many people who sit in an online poker site's office and operate the poker software, has a clue as to whether the site is honest or not. Almost no one has the expertise to acquire DIRECT evidence one way or the other. So how about we stop these stupid Romper Room threads where all people do is insult each other because they're discussing an emotional issue and being emotional about it? I'm posting this because I took an extended break from this forum without disabling email notification of replies. The only notifications I've been receiving over the past two months are in the "Where did you learn to play?" and "Absolute is rigged" threads, and the latter has degenerated into exactly the kind of childish is not/is too discussion I'm complaining about. Basta! Por favor! [/QUOTE]

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