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[QUOTE="David G, post: 1660826, member: 75960"] This is sound advice for a normal downswing, even a once a year or two type of downswing. If you've never been in the one of your life that is so foreign to anything that's even been shown or written about, I think you would have to figure something else out. It's just, hard to grasp unless you've been there, but honestly "making correct poker decisions?" will not matter, even in the long run. In fact, it's what makes you lose your stack every time because thats what the point of the game should be, getting as much money in with as much of a favorite as possible. For the people who can not win regardless and have gone 100's of 1'000's of hands well under, it's very lonely and there just isnt much advice on what to do. Most say take a break but IDK that didn't help me so I guess the only advice I was able to figure is to try another venue, format, limit, etc. I'd also probably advise just quitting. For the "quitting" I'm talking about the most epic of bad luck. I think one thing that hasn't been talked about much, if at all, is that in the grand scope...over even a persons life time, some people are going to run worse than others over that same sample and vice versa some people will run great over that span. Another overlooked element is timing of winnings/losses. This is especially true for a tournament player but if a cash game player played stakes that were 1-10 times difference, it could def affect them too. It's possible to run "even" or "correct" over a huge sample and still have much different results. To keep it simple, the guy who loses the 80-20 on the final table bubble of the wsop main event can run exactly the same as the guy who won the 20-80, but the difference in result is obviously gonna be huge. Now that's an extreme example because I wanted to make the point stand out and be simple but imagine scenarios like that but over huge samples where some guys, although they are running exactly as they should in the long run, have lost more of the pots that didn't have as much meaning but won more of the "meaningful" ones. This truly stands out in tournament poker but like I said, it's possible to happen in cash as well. Examples would be winning 4 out of 5 80-20's when people were all in for 5 BB's but losing the 80-20 that was a 200bb pot. Also, it's possible to run worse at one limit and better at another so this all affects results. It's a shame there's no real way to gauge this and quantify it but this is why I say, for a person who is literally in a foriegn downswing of many many hands and many many months, it may be decent advice to advise quitting. Either way it's an uncomfortable topic, I love this game as many others do and talking about quitting is like talking about death but even though extreme cases are rare, it would be nice to have resources of advice a person suffering from a rare occurrence could gather info from. [/QUOTE]
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