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Message: [QUOTE="Grossberger, post: 1362676, member: 55797"] *********** # 68 ************** PokerStars Game #36849233554: Tournament #221476861, $4.00+$0.40 USD Omaha Pot Limit - Level XXII (1250/2500) - 2009/12/18 5:35:18 ET Table '221476861 11' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 2: Grossberger (57066 in chips) Seat 3: CC MON$Y (41225 in chips) Seat 4: aynali (18070 in chips) Seat 5: lifelike1992 (135144 in chips) Seat 6: xLENNIEx (313234 in chips) Seat 8: dlions4025 (86110 in chips) dlions4025: posts small blind 1250 Grossberger: posts big blind 2500 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Grossberger [Kd 9d 9h 8d] CC MON$Y: raises 6250 to 8750 aynali: folds lifelike1992: calls 8750 xLENNIEx: calls 8750 dlions4025: folds Grossberger: calls 6250 *** FLOP *** [Qs 4h 5s] Grossberger: checks CC MON$Y: checks lifelike1992: bets 25000 xLENNIEx: raises 86250 to 111250 Grossberger: folds CC MON$Y: folds lifelike1992: raises 15144 to 126394 and is all-in xLENNIEx: calls 15144 *** TURN *** [Qs 4h 5s] [6c] *** RIVER *** [Qs 4h 5s 6c] [2d] *** SHOW DOWN *** lifelike1992: shows [Qd 4s Jd 7h] (two pair, Queens and Fours) xLENNIEx: shows [8c 4d Ks As] (a pair of Fours) lifelike1992 collected 289038 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 289038 | Rake 0 Board [Qs 4h 5s 6c 2d] Seat 2: Grossberger (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 3: CC MON$Y folded on the Flop Seat 4: aynali folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: lifelike1992 showed [Qd 4s Jd 7h] and won (289038) with two pair, Queens and Fours Seat 6: xLENNIEx (button) showed [8c 4d Ks As] and lost with a pair of Fours Seat 8: dlions4025 (small blind) folded before Flop OK HERE IS THE CHAT THAT FOLLOWED THIS HAND AND I JUST REALIZED xLENNIEx DIDN'T HAVE ANY STRAIGHT DRAW. xLENNIEx said, "idiot*" xLENNIEx said, "fkin moron" xLENNIEx said, "top and bottom pair" xLENNIEx said, "he shoves 120k" xLENNIEx said, "lmao" Grossberger said, "lol thats funny" xLENNIEx said, "i have nut flush draw, higher 2 pair plus trips draw, striaght draw" xLENNIEx said, "so sick" Grossberger said, "and yet he still won the hand which means ........... uh he had the BEST hand all you had was draws so I would say your the idiot not him" xLENNIEx said, "he was a moron the whole tourney anyways, he got quads 2x calling with nothing..." xLENNIEx said, "learn to play omaha Gross" xLENNIEx said, "read a fkin book or something" xLENNIEx said, "LMAO" xLENNIEx said, "you have no clue how to play omaha" xLENNIEx said, "even a set after the flop can be a dog" xLENNIEx said, "lmao" xLENNIEx said, "nvm, i wouldnt want you to know anywyas" Grossberger said, "I guess your right if 2 pair is beat by a draw then we should call a moderator because the pot was awarded to the 2 pair and not the draws" CC MON$Y said, "both u shouldnt of called preflop" Grossberger said, "ok I'll do that uhhhh which book will tell me that 2 pair is beat by draws ???????????? I definately want to read that book" Grossberger said, "WE NEED A MOD AT TABLE 11 PLEASE FOR A RULING the pot was awarded to the wrong person" xLENNIEx said, "18 card straight draw with a flush draw is fav over a set even on the flop" dlions4025 said, "the one who claims to know is the one who knows the least" xLENNIEx said, "you just dont get it... fish never do" xLENNIEx said, "but seriously Gross, you think top and bottom pair is nuts?" xLENNIEx said, "hey Gross, this is your first ever cash in omaha eh? Grossberger said, "omaha high probably and your point" xLENNIEx said, "even hi/low you have only 128 bucks in wins..." Grossberger said, "oh sorry I didnt realize you were Phil Ivey so sorry" xLENNIEx said, "not saying i am pro just think you should have some game if you wanna talk smack" Grossberger said, "I'll be sure to fold 2 pair if you raise hell I might even fold quads to you oh great one" xLENNIEx said, "just made yourself look pathetic" Grossberger said, "All I said was the best hand when the money went in won" Grossberger said, "you called a guy an idiot for pushing with the best hand" xLENNIEx said, "just read an omaha book and you'll see what i was talking about 2 pairs and sets being dogs after the flop to straight and flush draws..." xLENNIEx said, "maybe if you read an omaha book you would understand better" xLENNIEx said, "thats your problem" xLENNIEx said, "and therefore ZERO cashes in omaha" xLENNIEx said, "just read one and know the basics of Omaha" xLENNIEx said, "and you'll see what i mean" xLENNIEx said, "maybe you'll even cash in an omaha tourney a 2nd time" Grossberger said, "OHHHHHH I SEE SO YOUR SAYING THAT IN POKER THE DOGS NEVER WIN HUH AHHHHH OK NOW IM ON THE SAME PAGE YEA I HAVE NEVER HAD POCKET ACES CRACKED BY A LESSER HAND" xLENNIEx said, "maybe if you actually played a big stack and not a 10BB stack through the whole tourney you would understand" Grossberger said, "well the "basics" as you call it is knowing what hands beat what and the last time I looked (it might have changed) but 2 pair beat a draw now I'll go "read" a book and see when they changed that rule" dlions4025 said, "you guys should make out and get it over with" Grossberger said, "NO NO THIS IS GOOD I DIDNT REALIZE THE FAVORITE ALWAYS WON THE POT SEE I LEARNED SOMETHING SO I WILL READ A BOOK SO I CAN READ THE SECTION THAT THE FAVORITE AFTER THE FLOP ALWAYS WINS" xLENNIEx said, ""Pot Limit Omaha Poker" by Jeff Hwang is a good book try it. changes the way you play omaha.. you will notice better results... No BS" Grossberger said, "what chapter in the book says favorites will always win" xLENNIEx said, "in what book do you read that you should put your money in when your a dog?? cause it must be called... " LOSING IN PLO " by Grossberger" Grossberger said, "I never tried giving lessons I simply want to know whe n a draw beat 2 pair" Grossberger said, "or the chapter that straight and flush draws will ALWAYS hit after the flop" xLENNIEx said, "most of the time, just get over yourself and read a book" xLENNIEx said, "thats all im saying" xLENNIEx said, "good luck, and maybe if you werent so hard headed. You would actually cash in a PLO tourney" And last but not least the tourny results PokerStars Tournament #221476861, Pot Limit Omaha Buy-In: $4.00/$0.40 USD 348 players Total Prize Pool: $1392.00 USD Tournament started 2009/12/18 1:30:00 ET Tournament finished 2009/12/18 6:52:36 ET 1: [B]lifelike1992 (garner), $269.47 (19.358%)[/B] 2: ted1319 (saint nazaire), $201.84 (14.5%) 3: eityby55 (Краснодар), $153.12 (11%) 4: [B]Grossberger (Seven Hills), $114.84 (8.25%)[/B] 5: fullrolla858 (Springfield), $79.34 (5.699%) 6: joy-t946 (Ярославль), $61.24 (4.399%) 7: dlions4025 (fremont), $47.32 (3.399%) 8: [B]xLENNIEx (Tuktoyaktuk), $33.40 (2.399%)[/B] 9: aynali (london), $24.36 (1.75%) [/QUOTE]

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