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Message: [QUOTE="Jagsti, post: 826666, member: 16769"] Right, I gonna be a little controversial here. I honestly think it's really rare (bordering on impossible) to play a TAG'ish style and have slightly negative to pushing on break even non SD pots AND still maintain a decent SD winning %age. I've played 6max and FR and have endeavoured to maintain optimal stats ie something like 18/16/3 at 6max, 14/10/2 at FR say. I CB 60-70% of pots, for me it just doesn't work. My non SD winnings runs a near mirror image to my SD winnings line. Now as far as I'm concerned, there are 3 types of players that will have decent non SD winnings (ie slightly neg to break even or better). Calling station type's, LAGGY players, and truly exceptional players who play few tables. And of these types, most will have poorer SD winnings, than typical TAG's. I have looked at conversations on this forum and 2+2, and I'm pretty convinced of this. Also you have to look at the likes of sample size as well. The likes of Zach, Chuck and myself play zillions of hands/tables. Chuck has said he had a stretch of 50k hands were he was break even in non SD winnings. I myself have had stretches of 25k hands were I was only partially negative. But we really need to look at sample sizes here to put a lot of this into perspective. One more thing, as we progress up the limits, upto 400nl and beyond, again this is were the game will dramatically change and our non SD winnings will have to improve to enable survival at these limits. This will be through more semi bluffs/bluffs etc. Yes I think we may be able to reduce this difference slightly, which will obv have a +ve affect on our winrates. But to reduce it dramatically will have to involve some major changes in style I think and poker goals (ie playing a helluva lot less tables). Just my 2pennies worth! [/QUOTE]

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