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Message: [QUOTE="Liveone1, post: 780459, member: 38392"] More than you'd think, and for different reasons too. Also, as you may know, toward the end of the free rolls, the real players start to come out. I frequent free rolls and often make it to that point. My style holds up just fine against them. I only lose due to horrible luck (turns & rivers have it out for me in a baaaad way). So, you needed to sit down, and compute your previous hands in order to become a decent player? You had to rely on a program to do that for you? You couldn't over time, like a true player (IMO), figure this out for YOURSELF? And this isn't baseball, but just so you know, your quote is irrelevant. Why? Well, you know hitting off a tee (analyzing your swing) Is different from going into a lab, swinging (analyzing), and having computers tell you whats wrong with your swing and how to correct it. However, that is exactly what you are doing as a poker player by using these programs. Taking the easy, lazy way out. If you don't see that, thats ignorance. You thought wrong. Tell me, do you think most of todays (you can even include yesterdays) successful poker players have/had these programs to use? If so, how many of them do you think use/used them? Now, out of the remainder of players (who don't use them), how many are still successful without these programs? Of course these are all assumptions (I feel they are logical ones because I'm sure they have a natural ability for the game[as I know I do, but not on their level yet]), but it doesn't seem like their being passed by to me. Neither will I, but if you need something like this to aid your play, I can't say the same will apply to you. Technology can't solve all of our problems...it definitely shouldn't anyway. [/QUOTE]

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