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Message: [QUOTE="zachvac, post: 924818, member: 26306"] Yeah you definitely don't want to be seeing a ton of cheap flops and hoping to hit monsters. That's not where your money comes from. Your money mostly actually comes 2 places imo. One is the small pots you pick up by stealing, playing your position and outplaying opponents to pick up the pot without a showdown. The second place is the big pots when opponents are bad. If they will stack top pair with a bad kicker, then when the two of you play a big pot together, you'll have the better hand soooo much more often, and you win money that way. The sort of style you're describing doesn't exactly accomplish either. You're being pretty passive, so you're not picking up too many blinds and stuff, and limping encourages multi-way pots where it is tough to pick up the pot postflop without a hand. On top of that, especially in multiway limped pots, not often will an opponent be stacking off super-light (there are still morons out there, so if you play well and know relative hand strength this should stil be a small edge) so you often won't be winning a huge pot. When you have a pocket pair it's more likely that your opponents also have pocket pairs or suited connectors, and when you flop a set they could flop a straight or a flush, and when you flop the monster they're not going to pay you off with just one pair. Basically in 6max play if no one before you has called, you should either be raising or folding, and even raising or folding when there are limpers. Unless I'm doing something tricky, I'm basically never going to limp in 6max. It's a raise, fold, or call a raise from an earlier player. Try that though, play a session (drop down limits if you want to get comfortable and so you don't have to worry about losing a ton of money experimenting) where you are not allowed to call preflop ever. You have to raise or fold preflop. I think you'll find you play a much better game. Also, when you fold you folded. You didn't know what was coming so what comes doesn't matter. You make a decision with the information you have. If someone goes all-in you fold 28o. If the flop comes 288 it's irrelevant. Poker's about making decisions, and obsessing about trying to make decisions based on unpredictable future events is just not smart. [/QUOTE]

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