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Message: [QUOTE="feitr, post: 925023, member: 34106"] 35/17 is a problem. I have 16/13 for FR and 22/19 for 6 max. I suspect you are cold calling way too much from the sounds of things. Your cold calling range (when you are learning) should really only be pps, s/cs, and big broadway cards (preferrably suited) and you should be calling these primarily on the button (or CO if you don't have squeezy players behind, which ofc is 99% the case in nl25) so that you have position postflop. All those hands play terrible out of position. You have to think about what you are trying to accomplish and how you intend to make whatever you choose to do a profitable play. That means that you don't call with s/cs and pps in the blinds vs a wide opening range, because 1. you are oop 2. you will almost always miss your hand and 3. when you do hit your hand the odds are that villain doesn't have a strong enough hand to enable you to extract enough value to make this a +EV play. Sounds from your OP that you are calling with alot of random garbage, probably often oop, and then trying to hit a magical flop. This is simply going to result in you seeing way too many flops and then being forced to play fit or fold on the flop, which is going to lose you alot of money. 27o will flop a full house every now and then, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a shitty hand that shouldn't be played. Preflop should be about 3 main things: 1: Trying to get an immediately profitable situation-->stealing nits blinds for example. Your hand doesn't matter when they are going to fold so much that you auto profit by opening 100% on the button and folding whenever they play back at you. 2: Setting up a postflop advantage-->Two main parts to this. a) It always helps to be the PFRer because you are *typically* representing a fairly decent range and have initiative in the hand. Another example is setting up an advantage by isolating a loose passive fish that plays fit or fold after the flop because you have a HU pot vs somebody who will fold often to your cbet and b) To gain position on everybody else in the hand. If you open from the CO you want the btn to fold so you can get HU with the blinds or an early limper. Or if you have a good speculative hand or just a good hand you don't want to 3 bet, calling in position allows you to be in control of the hand to a degree. 3: To get money in the pot when you have a good hand (kinda obvious). So when you are cold calling all the time, you have to ask yourself "just what am i trying to accomplish here?". If you are just randomly calling hoping to hit a bit hand, without thinking about things like the pfr's range, your position postflop, players to act afterwards, etc. then you are just going to be spewing money. You have to learn to be able to do things like auto toss aj in the bb if a nit opens from ep, because you are going to be oop for the hand, and your hand is trash vs a nit's opening range from utg. On the surface you are probably thinking "aj sweet i have a nice hand" but you have to think how exactly are you expecting to win any money by calling in the big blind with a potentially dominated hand vs the utg's range, having no initiative in the hand and being oop? The answer is you simply aren't. And there are millions of examples like this i'm sure you'd find if you went through some of the hands you've played. So tighten up, raise if you are going to open a hand, narrow your cold calling range drastically (pps, some s/cs and suited broadway cards) and MAKE SURE YOU ARE CALLING WITH THESE IN POSITION. The final thing i'll say is that i highly highly suggest that you stop playing 6 max. 6 max is quite a bit harder than FR to get the hang of and if you are struggling then playing FR and tightening way up should make it quite easy to grind out a profit. As you improve you can loosen up, but playing loose simly does not work unless you have a much better understanding of the game dynamics and are very good at things like hand reading. [/QUOTE]

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