sngs on 888

telboy · Nov 22, 2011

Question ?
I have played 97 $2.90 9 man sngs
ITM=51, 1st=8, 2nd=22, 3rd=21 Proffit=$51.70.
Ts that any good or not?
Please give your views and advise

tenbob · Nov 22, 2011

Yes you are doing great so far. Sample size is too small though and your ROI is unstainable in the long term. Play at least 1K games imo then ask again.

PotluckXXI · Nov 22, 2011

That looks really good

jsaw · Nov 22, 2011

Tenbob is spot on - cashing in over 50% of sng's suggests you are doing fine, but the larger the sample the less likely the error in the conclusion. It will be interesting to see if you can sustain your winning percentage as you move up in buying especially if the blind levels increase. The longer the blind level the greater the skill needed to win.

WiZZiM · Nov 23, 2011

If the number of seconds and thirds keeps up over 6-700 games, there's likely leaks you may need to work on. But yeah, as mentioned, not enough games to really derive anything. Stick at it until you reach the 6-700 mark at least.

LarryT503 · Nov 24, 2011

What a start! Yes, need more games but you're obviously playing well so far. Just keep doing as you are and please update us. Winning is fun!

telboy · Nov 29, 2011

I have now played 210 $2.90 nine man sngs

ITM=105. 1st=19. 2nd=38. 3rd=48. Profit $77.25
I know I haven't played enith sngs yet but i just wanted to keep you up dated

OzExorcist · Nov 30, 2011

Still obviously a small sample size, and you're doing good, but as has been alluded to above it'd be a lot better if your first and second numbers were around the other way.

That sounds like an obvious thing to say, because you'd have made more money if they were around the other way and that's obviously a good thing. But having twice as many seconds as you do firsts is probably an indication that you've either got leaks in your heads-up game, or you're getting to heads up short-stacked more often than not, which is probably an indication of leaks at earlier stages.

On the whole I wouldn't be too worried about your ITM number. It doesn't necessarily help us all that much because (and I know this is an extreme example) you can have an ITM percentage of 55 but if they're all third places you'll still make a loss. I can't remember the numbers, but I'm pretty sure most winning SnG players have an ITM percentage below 50 (maybe even something like 35 - like I said, been a while and I don't really remember) and that works for them because they have a comparatively high percentage of first place finishes making up for the times they don't cash at all. FWIW I've got no idea what my own ITM percentage is. ROI and $/hr are much more useful figures if you're looking for an overall indication of how you're doing.

Logan2 · Nov 30, 2011

If get the numbers well that is a ROI of 12%, looks good.
ITM is 50% and that is way to high. Probably you are getting to the money really short, and getting a lot more 2nd and 3rd places because of that.
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Oz beat me.

Normal ITM is around 40% for winning players.

telboy · Nov 30, 2011

thanks for the replys. I will post again when i have played 300

Tangerine 53 · Dec 1, 2011

OzExorcist said:
On the whole I wouldn't be too worried about your ITM number. It doesn't necessarily help us all that much because (and I know this is an extreme example) you can have an ITM percentage of 55 but if they're all third places you'll still make a loss. I can't remember the numbers, but I'm pretty sure most winning SnG players have an ITM percentage below 50 (maybe even something like 35 - like I said, been a while and I don't really remember) and that works for them because they have a comparatively high percentage of first place finishes making up for the times they don't cash at all. FWIW I've got no idea what my own ITM percentage is. ROI and $/hr are much more useful figures if you're looking for an overall indication of how you're doing.

Oz is bang on as normal. I remember reading on this forum somewhere that the optimum distribution for a winning player contained a relatively high proportion of 5th to 6th place finishes indicating the times when you ramp up aggression and lose. However this should lead to a distribution where 1st>2nd>3rd leading to an improved ROI. What might be interesting is if you post your overall distribution or your VPIP/PFR % for HU, 3-5 players and 6+ players. This might help us identify some potential leaks in your game.

LarryT503 · Dec 1, 2011

Glad you updated us. It appears you are still doing well. Keep playing as you are and update us again.

telboy · Dec 4, 2011

Update

Played 273 $2.90 sngs
ITM 135,
1st=28, 2nd=46, 3rd=61, 4th=47, 5th=36, 6th=33, 7th/8th/9th=22
RIO=13.68%, Win Rate $0.40/hr, Profit=$108.30

dejanbgd · Dec 4, 2011

50% in the money for my view is great results and want to congratulate on that. One question for You, how many tables plays in same time?

telboy · Dec 4, 2011

dejanbgd said:
50% in the money for my view is great results and want to congratulate on that. One question for You, how many tables plays in same time?

I play 4 tables at the same time

telboy · Dec 6, 2011

Update
Played=312, ITM=155. 1st=31, 2nd=56, 3rd=68, 4th=54, 5th=39, 6th=37, 7th/8th/9th=27, RIO=14.14%, Profit=$127.95

TeUnit · Dec 8, 2011

very nice

looks like you found a good place to play

keep it up

gl at the tables,

t

Poker Orifice · Dec 8, 2011

I've never tried SNG's on 888 (because cash & MTT are so soft)

Might give it a shot now.

Looks like you're doing GREAT!! What time of day do you play on there (in EST)?

telboy · Dec 9, 2011

Looks like you're doing GREAT!! What time of day do you play on there (in EST)?[/quote]
UK Time about 5.30am - 9.30am before i go to work.
If i am no to tired I play about 6-pm in the evening. I play for a couple of hours

dejanbgd · Dec 9, 2011

....and still winning, nice job man.

telboy · Dec 13, 2011

UPDATE - 2.90 nine man sngs on site 888
Played=400, ITM=199, RIO=13.64%, Win rate/Hr =$0.39, Profit $157.95

1st=38, 2nd=75, 3rd=85, 4th=71, 5th=49, 6th=44, 7th/8th/9th=38

tenbob · Dec 13, 2011

Whats your bankroll atm ?

telboy · Dec 13, 2011

tenbob said:
Whats your bankroll atm ?

I deposited $50.00, I have now got $172.68

F4STFORW4RD · Dec 13, 2011

Poker Orifice said:
I've never tried SNG's on 888 (because cash & MTT are so soft)

Their DoNs are quite easy, too.

telboy · Dec 20, 2011

UPDATE
Played - 512, ITM - 248, RIO - 12.31%, Win Rate - $0.36/hr, Profit - $185.50

1st = 49, 2nd = 91, 3rd = 107, 4th = 90, 5th = 66, 6th = 54, 7th/8th9th = 56
Bankroll now at $198.63.

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