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Message: [QUOTE="Divebitch, post: 1040337, member: 39020"] 1) Agree with the first comment, although cowboy did not say it was a [B]great[/B] hand. 2) With suited connectors, the biggest 'thing' you might have included in your 'etc' is [B]stack size[/B]. It's certainly not a made hand, nor will a pair necessarily help you. You better not expect to make your hand on the flop, so count on potentially spending a lot to see the river, and of course, as cowboy alluded to, be prepared to fold it up if you don't see at least 2 parts to either a flush or straight or at least 1 part of EACH on the flop. Bottom line, I'd agree they have the 'potential' to be the 'most' powerful hands with regard to # of outs for a huge hand if you can afford seeing it to the river. [/QUOTE]