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Message: [QUOTE="TPC, post: 1583378, member: 46273"] I don't really think you've given cash games a fare shot. But if it's not for you, it's not for you. I would say more members of CC grind SNG's and tourneys than cash, so no big deal if that's what you want to do. I should have been more clear with what I meant. The DON's are garbage due to the rake. But what I meant by that was they really aren't double or nothing. Again to make the math simple. Lets say you were playing $10 DON'S, they are actually $10 + $1. So, if you win a DON, you win $9, not ten dollars. If you lose a DON, you lose $10. So now that you lost a DON, you need to win two DON's to make up for the one you lost, to be able to profit again. So if it were a true DON, if you won 50% you would be even, but due to the rake (and to avoid math) you have to win like 60% to break even. To profit, you would obviously have to win more. Then add in the fact that because it's a DON and how you have to play DON's to profit it's extremely boring. That's what makes DON's garbage due to the rake:D 25 games in an hour is a lot. Not sure how many tables you are playing, but for only playing two months your are more than likely playing way too many tables at once. Turbos are the highest form of variance for SNG's. Being new to online poker I would avoid playing turbos at all costs. Heck I still avoid turbos. Due to the structure they are pretty much push fold by the fourth blind level. That's not poker imo. Play non turbo SNG's and MTT's and save yourself some head aches. If you must play turbos search and study ICM (Independent chip model) and M ratios (more for MTT's and multi table SNG's). You should study those concepts for non turbo games as well. Very small sample. You are being results oriented. Sometimes you just have a bad night. However, you are also new to online poker, so you are probably making some mistakes. I suggest posting some hands in the HA section of CC, to see if we can help you. Also, not sure how many tables you are playing at once. But I suggest playing two max for now. As you learn more and become more confident then you can add more tables. What is it that you like about turbos so much? They are going to be higher variance than non turbo games. The skilled player would rather have the blinds raise as slow as possible. Think of a turbo structure as giving lady luck a little bigger share of the game than she normally would have. You're going to be but into push fold a lot sooner with turbos than with non turbos. Also, if you are worried about the money, poker might not be for you. You should only be playing with money you can afford to lose. Think of the money you are losing to be paying for your poker education. With that said, don't go crazy and move up to higher limits. Poker is a grind, it's not a get rich quick scheme. It's going to take a lot of time to learn and understand the concepts associated with each game type (which is why there are a lot of people in this thread saying you need to pick one game type and stick with it). Then some more time learning how to apply what you learned in actual game situations. D: I need to understand that I'm not going to be good at poker overnight. I know to you two months seems like a long time. But it's all relative to what we are talking about. Two months in jail, to me seems like a long time. If the NFL only played for two months out of the year, that would be super quick. What new players don't understand is poker is more than what beats what. Have you ever heard the saying poker takes minutes to learn and a lifetime to master? Again, you are expecting too much too quick. So if cash isn't for you, go the SNG route or MTT route. The first thing you need to do is choose what you are going to play and stick to it. Stay away from the DON's and the turbos for now. Post some hands in the HA section, get a couple of books. For SNG's I recommend Colin Moshman's SNG book. For MTT's I recommend the Harington on Hold'm books (there are three books total). Poker is more than just sitting down and playing to learn and figure out the game. You might have been able to get away with that ten years ago, but that's just not possible with today's poker games. You're starting to figure it out. If you break even in cash games with VPP's you are actually showing a small profit. Now you got to work on some of your leaks and turn that breaking even into a small profit and you're on your way. I just made it sound super easy, it's going to be a lot harder and take a lot of study and work to get there. But you can do it if you put your mind to it. As far as letting your emotions get in the way. I've struggled with that a lot. After blowing huge chunks of my roll time and time again due to tilt, I realized the only things I was hurting was myself and my bankroll. You need to leave you emotions at the door (easier said the done) and after you take a beat and lose a big pot. Ask yourself could I have played this had any differently with the information I had at the time of my decisions. If the answer is yes, then learn from it. If the answer is no, that's just the poker gods ****ing with you. They like to do that, don't let them!!! Yes, I get where you are coming from. It reminds me of when I started online. On TV and in stories on the net you hear about kid's turning $50 into millions. However, you never hear how long it took them to get there and they never talk about how much above EV that kid ran on his run. Even Dusty Schmidt said he was lucky he ran half way decent when he started. Think of success stories like that as advertisement to get other to play poker. Is it possible to turn $50 into a million dollars? Yes, people have done it. Is it likely? No. What is more likely is you work hard to become the best player you can. After a couple of years you start to show a steady profit. Then you realize ok, I have a good second job here where I make $X amount a year. I think you should pick up Dusty Schmidt's book "Treat Your Poker Like a Business," I think after you read that it will give you a better idea of what to expect and how much work is really needed to become a profitable player. [/QUOTE]

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