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Message: [QUOTE="mssippi_jim, post: 1170715, member: 55197"] [b]Lazy players & casino greed killing live stud games.[/b] IMO, the reason Holdem is so popular is because it is an easier game to play half drunk and still have a chance of getting lucky and winning, particularly on the low limit casino scene. Think about it, how many times have you been playing at a holdem table and have some drunk stumble up, who doesnt even know the structure of the game and has to be reminded every round what the correct bet is, call everything, catch everything, and fill up a couple of racks in 20 minutes when you have been battling to try and stay up for two hours? If that doesn't put you on tilt, you are doing well. I don't care what the books say, if you put about three of these at a table, they will beat you more times than not. Lets face it, Holdem does not require nearly as much effort to play as stud does, and personally I think the luck factor (present in any game involving cards), is much higher in Holdem than Stud. Holdem attracts a lot of young, inexperienced players at casinos that have seen it on tv and want to play. These players will throw lots of money in the pot which means maxed out rake for the casino hand after hand. It is also a faster game, again...more money for the house. Stud is more likely to draw a more mature, tighter group of players who will actually fold rather than chase every hand to the river. There is also only 8 players at a full stud table opposed to 10 at a holdem table...another reason casinos would rather have the holdem tables. It is frustrating to me that, here in Mississippi there is hardly ever a stud gave available anymore. There was an interest list last week at the Silverstar, and about 7 or 8 folks were on it...still no stud table was opened. We owe a debt to holdem for stirring the storm of interest in poker that it has, but it is a shame to see it damage all the other poker variations so severely in live venues. I would also say that stud is more profitable for a good player online than holdem. My win rate on low limit stud online is probably 70% or better...something I will never be able to approach on holdem I'm afraid. Anyway, that's my opinion for what its worth. Long live stud..."real" poker! [/QUOTE]

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