Stupid play or Gutsy play?

TheRinser · Oct 27, 2008

Pre flop raise and you call with A2. You hit the ace but the guy keeps betting, Fold or call? Or Should you really be folding those hands?

Ronaldadio · Oct 27, 2008

TheRinser said:
Pre flop raise and you call with A2. You hit the ace but the guy keeps betting, Fold or call? Or Should you really be folding those hands?

Not enough info, but as u r from Durham...

It depends. Position, chip stack (U and everyone else), read on player.

But generally, I would not play A with anything less than a 10 in the early/ mid parts of a MTT - note `generally`

HURRICANE28 · Oct 27, 2008

i agree not enough info size of blinds etc. i would play A 2 early in the game depending how many players r in the hand if u hit and the bets are small then hang around .....

HomeBrewer · Oct 27, 2008

I agree with everyone else. There are obviously an infinite number variables to consider in each situation. Now from personal experience, unless I hit both the A and the 2 I will lay down the top pair to the continuation bet about 85% of the time. That's just me.

lfd tricky · Oct 27, 2008

i wouldnt of called with ace rag. I pretty much fold everything less then a 10 kicker with an ace.

Exit141RTe1 · Oct 27, 2008

Its an auto fold here, no questions asked. Only in the big blind would I even consider it playing it. Having said that, I want the flop cheap, cheap, cheap.

beezleboss · Oct 27, 2008

First of all what are you hoping for when you call the raise in the first place? You know the guys goin to follow up and your out of position. I'd prefer a call with 6/7 TBH as you've just put yourself in a marginal situation where your going to either have to make a great call or lose a hefty chunk of your stack. Make the right move and muck the hand.

ra64 · Oct 27, 2008

i agree, stupid play. fold pre flop, if you didn't do that fold on the flop. If you really think he's weak, reraise, I wouldn't call with Ax, or probably not with A10, AJ. Only situation I can think of doing this would be heads up or 3 handed or something.

wobb803 · Oct 27, 2008

Fold ace rag pre-flop without question unless you are in position late in a tourny where depending on the circumstance you may go all in with it,
its ALL ABOUT POSITION.
But it is a definite fold early in tournaments and I always say
"you fold ace 3 off and the flop comes 3,3,3 you still made the correct move".

rwilson · Oct 27, 2008

wouldn't have called the blinds with this hand let alone call a preflop raise.

Except for very rare circumstances where it's extremely shorthanded and you have good reads on opponents, or you have a better than average chance of stealing worthwhile blinds in position.. I can't think of why you would possibly voluntarily play A2

dcor · Oct 27, 2008

if its a 3bb preflop raise you should have probably folded to begin with.....and the other question is how much he is betting in proportion to the pot size....

Pothole · Oct 27, 2008

Lots of Q&A's no response, spam post, ie. I have AA in the BB, what do I do? Get a colorectal done.

joeaugie · Oct 28, 2008

gutsy=stupid in poker

fold.....id be stacking you with AK.

BostonRobber · Oct 28, 2008

Everyone's seen someone play this hand against big pockets and win, so I think you should continue to be gutsy and bury the overrated hands out there! Don't forget to re-raise to knock out the weak hands! GL

Bearcat · Oct 28, 2008

A2

Ace anything less than a 10 is not stong on a 10 man table.
Put yourself on a 6 man table and it changes everything.
Gutsy but good. I most definately would have folded to his raise.
Knowing your kicker is so easily beaten.
Good luck on the felts .....Bearcat

rotocub · Oct 28, 2008

The 'Any Ace' strategy works for me. If the ace hits there's a good chance no one else has one, so I can be comfortable going for it.

Wait, that's the strategy of 88.3% of online players, not mine.

kingsup23 · Oct 28, 2008

Small ball is the key see as many flops as possible without giving up all your chips but idk about the fold anything below a ten kicker with an ace. thats just not smart play but im ultra aggressive so my opinion will differ from others.

i desire love · Oct 28, 2008

Ace rag into the muck

smokkee · Oct 28, 2008

A-rag is a trouble hand. you're going to get yourself in bad situations with it unless you flop two pair or better.

MissVien · Oct 28, 2008

And when you do and hit... someone's gonna be really mad. Me for instance

PokerPlayer06 · Oct 28, 2008

I would see that it is a gutsy play. At least for me. I play conservative so I would say gutsy.

Bigsmak · Oct 29, 2008

You shouldn't have played it in the first place.

You now really have only two options... Calling is not one of them..

You either fold and give up the pot..

Or - Depending on the player, position, chip stacks etc... You Raise.... That way you find out exactly what he has... Do not over-raise as you're buggered if he really has anything.. Just a simple double of what the opening bet is. This finds out if you are ahead or not.

His options are for an OK hand - Call - (Pocket KK QQ JJ or maybe another A Rag... A3 perhaps... He's now scared you have AK )
For a really good hand - Re-raise you back
For when he bluffed - He will most likely fold.

So depending on the situation.. I would raise... If he calls you know you might be in trouble but it gives you the chance to hit your kickker and more than likely he will check the turn unless he hits. Then you put a bet in and again, see what he does.

However... You shouldn't be playing A 2 in the first place.... Especially to a pre flop raise!

raymoesis · Oct 29, 2008

I agree for 100% with Bigsmak! But actually you really shoudnt play it in first place But Sometimes you wanna see a flop with that,a real good one,but normaly is automatic fold for me!

josh_dei8 · Oct 29, 2008

90% of the time this is a easy fold. If you are on the button and there is no limpers may make a 3.5x raise to try to take down pot, or if you are in sb and its a limp in I would see it. When the flop comes, with and A you have such a weak kicker unless u pick up the 2 pair or trips it should be folded.

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