superuser

could someone clarify what a super user is.
are they cheats who can see other players hole cards ?
if so, how ?
do they really exist or is it just a term for cheats (colluders etc.)
thanks
gl all.

A super user is typically a former employee who has access to the poker site's database, and can see other's hole cards, etc. I'm sure someone else can give a much more eloquent explanation, but that's it in a nutshell. To my knowledge, this has only happened once, at UB...or was it Absolute Poker? I'll have to Google it, or there is a thread here somewhere that goes into the scandal a bit further.

Here's the thread from here, with accompanying links from 2+2: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/general-poker-13/official-absolute-scandal-thread-93580/

interesting
thanks m8

juiceeQ said:

Here's the thread from here, with accompanying links from 2+2: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/general-poker-13/official-absolute-scandal-thread-93580/

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JQ thx for posting the actual link to that thread, I've never actually looked over the Said "10 Hand", but GOD all mighty, Pot Ripper Raised to 13.5K- and the other dude Raised to 200+K if I read it right , and pot ripper still Called, If Only I could be there, when the dude with the 9 high made that Insane bluff just too look at his face ..

That was Pot-Rippers Down fall

do any or all poker sites
have super user accounts for 'testing purposes'
how would we know ?

tcummo said:

do any or all poker sites
have super user accounts for 'testing purposes'
how would we know ?

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It only happened on A.P/U.B those are the only sites I've heard of scandals happening on...

I really don't doubt that A rogue employee could do such things on Most sites, yet other sites have added measures...

I really do forget what those measures are but someone could answer that question

tcummo said:

do any or all poker sites
have super user accounts for 'testing purposes'
how would we know ?

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Stop worrying op, online poker is only rigged with superusers accounts on Stars, FullTilt and Cake poker afaik. After the AP/UB scandal they obviously had to cleanup their image somewhat so only Phil gets to see peoples holecards beause he can dodge aces baby!

I heard there were some very secure poker sites in the Phillipines and one in particular in Uganda, but its still having problems breaking into mainstream poker because all the nits wont trust the guy who phones them up asking for their bank account, sort code and date of birth.

lol

naruto_miu said:

I really don't doubt that A rogue employee could do such things on Most sites, yet other sites have added measures...

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Actually, it's pretty unlikely that just one rogue employee could pull it off, at least for any serious amount of time.

The fallout from the UB/AP scandal has shown us that for their system to work they needed multiple people and the highest levels of the site's management to be involved. IIRC there was actually only one programmer involved, the rest were management types. They need the people higher up to tell all the underlings "It's OK, go about your business" when they started to notice strange things happening. One rogue employee without management support would almost certainly be caught and stopped before they could get a chance to steal much.

A rogue employee stealing loads and loads of hand histories and using them to get a detailed history on people without seeing their hole cards in real time is another matter entirely though...

FYI - a "superuser" is technically a system administrator that has what is called "root" priviledges. Any computer system has one. Therefore, any on-line poker site has superusers. Quite literally, they are God to the system.

The key is the trust that you have in these types of people. Technically, if you take an on-line gaming site, the administrators should be prohibited from playing on it, be paid enough that they won't have to look for money elsewhere, and go through a thorough background and personality assessment prior to granting them root access.

These types of problems are not limited to on-line gaming sites. Even something like Amazon has to worry about compromising their customer's personal information and prevent the system from superuser fraud.

tcummo said:

do any or all poker sites
have super user accounts for 'testing purposes'
how would we know ?

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Sure we know the answers to questions of such.
:call:

:flybye:

The UB scandle happened several years and the industry learned from that. Its worth noting that the security procedures in place were no more lax than the types of security procedures your own bank would have been using at the time.

Im glad I play Micro Stakes, but then again, they could be lurking anywhere.