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Message: [QUOTE="dj11, post: 1812719, member: 13851"] Not trying to hijack this thread, but your OP was written well enuf to be the seed for something more than just your written piece. I hope it doesn't get a 'vote' factor like "I hate that idea", or "I love this idea", but instead gets some fresh discussion on what we need in any legislation, what we fear others will feel the need to put into that legislation, and (not wanting to show my cards here) what we might accept in any impending legislation. The possibility that politicians destroy this legislation because the greedy bastards just see 'income' is very real. As online poker advocates, we must be involved with our ideas, and our voices. Else the rake/fee based taxes will climb to a point that online poker is for entertainment purposes only. So for instance, I am unhappy that the whole legislation seems to be grouped into online gaming, rather than online poker. Such a huge difference between hosting a poker game between (anonymous) friends, and staging a house game like blackjack, or craps. Incidentally, the online, for profit bridge (card game bridge) world was equally upended by the UIGEA. And bridge, like poker, is a game of individual skills, tempered by a luck factor. The bridge world has largely flown under the radar since UIGEA, but the effects there were about the same as we poker players dealing with the departure of Party, then Stars and FT, and how several sites have essentially been 'under the radar' since Black Friday. Sports bettors also would claim skills over luck. And I can almost see it. I do not indulge in sports betting, irregardless of how hard the mixed online sites try to get me involved. It seems to me that each bet is similar in that I am betting against another bettor, and the odds factor is a house function (with a fee), to even out the number of bettors on each side. Again, I do not know much about sports betting. The skills come into it via each bettors knowledge of the sides involved, the health of each side, and the health of the other bettor, like is he betting his alma mater because he is drunk? And a last weird thought. If the legislation stays similar to what exists now, and that the luck thing is what most legislators think about when they nix any impending legislation to change things, then we could also include elections as having too large a luck factor to continue being allowed. Legislators by lottery, or draft ??????:confused::confused::confused: [/QUOTE]

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