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Message: [QUOTE="kevkojak, post: 1193492, member: 50094"] Sounds like you were at a pretty loose table. If so, i'd definately have waited for a better spot. I mean, your raise of 3 BB's was only to test the water at that spot. Looks like its enough to shift the rags (just short of 4K by your reckoning?) but not so much that you feel tied to your 8's. Action was folded right around to you in the cut-off, so I'd have to ask, if you fancied your 8 8 in that spot why not open shove there? The answer is 'coz you knew it wasn't REALLY an all-in hand on reflection. (hindsight is a great thing eh?) The guy with the 9's sounds like an action player, I'm pretty sure you'd have rinsed him if you'd waited for a premium hand. Its easy to loosen up once your in the money though, and at least you cashed. I dont think you were moving him off his 9's, a nice cheap flop would have been great, but I believe a lay-down would have been the right move in that position. Sorry. [/QUOTE]