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Message: [QUOTE="LJG23, post: 5642374, member: 245953"] So this is the best link I could find regarding our debate. [url]http://www.pokerology.com/articles/poker-tournaments-volume-variance/[/url] These numbers show that you were closer to being right than I was, but I would also like to point out couple things. First they are counting tournaments of at least 180 people. This would include 180 man sngs I would think and there are some absolute crushers in this format. Second the "amateur" stats are based on an average buy in of $30. This is not micros, which is what was being talked about in the Jonathan Little webinar I referenced. The point I guess I was trying to make is that the average person here should not be trying to compare their stats to those they see of the top tournament professionals. Especially if your playing micro stakes. Would just lead to heart ache and frustration for someone that doesn't understand the true volatility of variance at those levels. [/QUOTE]