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Message: [QUOTE="SavagePenguin, post: 944186, member: 22087"] Too many people lack patience in tournaments and that works in favor of the patient players (a'la Phil Hellmuth, and pretty much most pros). Patience is indeed very important, and separates a lot of winners from losers. To me, this line is a poisonous line of thought. The hands will not always come. As the blinds increase and your chip stack decreases, certain aggressive moves become +EV. Ignoring (or even not creating) opportunity in favor of waiting for a big hand will bleed you dry and powerless late in a tournament. Tournaments have substantially larger payouts for those that finish deep, and in order to hit those you'll have to stick your neck on the line to get the chips you need for a big finishing position. As the saying goes, "In order to live, you have to be willing to die." In my last 3 live tournaments, I had an early knock out, a 1st place, and a 2nd place (we chopped at the end, but he had more chips so he got a little more $). Now, live tournament players in $25 tournaments aren't generally the best players, making ridiculously small bets in relationship to pot size, not stealing when they should, etc. So I did let my M get really low before making moves. (When I shoved with an M of 3.5 the table gasped at my big reckless bet. Ha ha!) But you are *not* going to get those breaks online, not even in a $1 tournament. People online generally play a lot smarter than the people in those low stakes tournaments. If you just sit back and wait for cards, you are going to get bled to death. There's no argument that impatience is deadly. But patience to the point of missing opportunity is a slow death that leads to small cashes rather than the big, deep cashes you should be fighting for. [/QUOTE]

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