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Message: [QUOTE="lukeellul92, post: 2612273, member: 129911"] I never said to fold AK pre? And shoving AK I PERSONALLY think should only be done if you're short stacked. But, my post is essentially to do with the basic optimal play with these 2 hands. If villain hadn't seen heros bluff from previous hands, villain wouldn't (shouldn't) shove with A3o, unless super short stacked. Thats why I said, if hero hadn't shown his bluffs, he would (normally) have won this pot, no? I feel it's easier to just not show any of your hands unless required. That way, people don't know if you were bluffing or not. I feel this would be better play? But once again, each to their own. If he feels like showing his bluffs, no ones stopping him. Also apologies, my use of the word "nit" was incorrect. [/QUOTE]