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[QUOTE="ItsMe, post: 778961, member: 34346"]
Obviously, no one in their right mind should use the odds calculator as if you can't do this yourself then really you should take up snap.
 
The second category of tools that tell you what people have done at your table - again I'd like to think that i am already monitoring people that well. Who is betting too much, what looks like a c-bet, who bets in late position, etc. I don't really need a tool to tell me if someone's a rock or fish. I used one of these for a few hands and found I was looking more at the tool than the table - that is so bad.
 
If the tool includes historic info then that might be useful. But then again people playing different limits, cash, SNGs,MTTs, short handed or full table, low BR or High BR coming out as one number - well that's an interesting number.
 
Can I use these. I'm not sure. If I have A4o and the it's the first hand and the sb is a major fish who goes all-in well I am still folding. Guess the thing is if you keep seeing bets and no showdowns then may be, just may be it might be useful. But it strikes me as the sort of thing that bites you in the bum, and just something else to blame when you make the wrong call.
 
PS - forgot - sort of relevant - if I play in a tourney for a while then the next day I go over my hands in large pots, really looking for my own leeks but sometimes you do notice the idiot moves by others and sometimes it's worth recording them using notes especially if you are going to be playing the same guy again, e.g. if she/he/it is a cardschat regular. Got a lot of notes on mad brazilians now!
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