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Message: [QUOTE="A2345Razz, post: 2388760, member: 90717"] Please, for the love of god and my sanity , stop referring to or rating NLH tournament players as "the best" or "top 100" POKER PLAYERS. Whether it be GPI or Pkrnews or on CC, it keeps on happening more and more. Look, it is fun to talk about who is the best or what our top ten is, but NLH donkaments are not the end all be all of poker play. In fact I would venture to guess if you took the 100 most profitable poker players over a decade and took out 1 drop/ME top 3's, you might only have a handful of folks in there [I]that are actually predominantly NLH MTT players[/I]....you might have close to 10 or less....MTTs, with their ancillary costs like travel, lodging, food, excessive rake at the WS0P and at lower buy in events, are simply not all that profitable live and therefore do not attract the most talented players with some exceptions I am glad Vanessa has binked a bunch of big buyin/ high profile tournaments. I think Vanessa is a fantastic NLH MTT player...probably in the discussion for the very top grouping.....BUT TO DISCUSS VANESSA SELBST AS BEING ONE OF THE VERY BEST P O K E R PLAYERS ON EARTH IS RIDICULOUS. I am not picking on Selbst; it just is a recent example which got under my skin. If you asked Vanessa or Mercier or one of the Germans who is better at overall poker them or someone like Galfond/Ike or Ivey, believe me they would giggle bc it is a ridiculous question. Cliffs: Stop pretending like people who play predominantly big buy in NLH donkaments are the best players in the world and referring to them as though they were. [/QUOTE]

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