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Message: [QUOTE="alaskabill, post: 1573494, member: 65541"] The title of your post is "wasted skills". I would say that the ability to beat a table full of bad players (along with the rake) is a skill and certainly not wasted. It is simply a different set of skills. Instead of playing maginal situations in such a way as to extract that extra thin value from a table full of regs you are looking to extract what one 2+2 poster calls "fat value" from calling stations. Play tighter and value bet them to death. Play good starting hands in position and when you hit your hand drag the bar. Its not as exciting as bluffing someone with air but it works. Sometimes the fish will suckout on you but over a large sample of hands you will make money and that, last time I checked, is the goal. Best wishes, Bill [/QUOTE]