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Message: [QUOTE="satcitananda, post: 5415095, member: 411728"] Apparently you're the guru of differentiating "real" addictions from "fake" ones. No point in even trying to come up with a counter argument. Who is saying that ANY addiction is impossible to overcome? What you're describing as a "real" addiction is an example of a physical addiction. There are many types of addiction and not all of them are physical. Some are psychological. Their dependence on a drug is in many cases because the withdrawals from not taking the drug can be very unpleasant and in some cases, deadly. Overcoming addiction is precisely a thing of will in many cases, even in drug addiction. If there's no will there's no way. What you're describing are the levels of addiction, and saying that because one is worse or more difficult to overcome or less painful or less this or more that, the other one is not an addiction and is therefore invalidated from being called an addiction. That's what you are doing. The question asked was not "Is poker among the top most dangerous and detrimental addictions?", it was whether poker can or cannot be an addiction or a weakness. So I don't get why you're getting so riled up about me and PokerOrifice's comments. By the way, I'd be pretty sure there's people who have stolen from others, asked for loans, lied, and manipulated to enforce and continue to feed a gambling habit or addiction. Comparing numbers about incarceration is useless in this debate. There's millions of humans that have been arrested around the world for selling illegal plants and mushrooms that can heal and help humanity, the fact that these people were incarcerated does not mean that what they did was necessarily better or worse than what you do for a living. Or that what they did was morally or ethically or spiritually or communally incorrect or detrimental. [/QUOTE]

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