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[QUOTE="Tygran, post: 1101727, member: 25662"]
I tend to think the US has been happy for a very long time to pretend to play this "guiding light" role. (since well before Bush...don't even try to blame this [I]all[/I] on him.  Even though he does deserve his own fair share of blame).  We've definitely been playing it since WWII if not earlier.   With WWII, it's hard for anyone really to not look at the US as the "guiding light" when you are being compared to Hitler, Stalin or Mussolini.  Or Japan and their pearl harbor attack and kamikaze bombers.

I don't believe for one second that the US hasn't been using torture for quite some time on some high and underground level.  Can I prove it?  Absolutely not, this is pure opinion and speculation.  With Guantanamo, we did have some proof.  I just refuse to buy it's as limited or as recent as that.  Or that we are somehow "above" being "capable" of doing it.

As far as Doyle goes, I don't see anything particular offensive there to anyone and he's more than welcome to post his own opinions on anything on his own blog.  Who cares?  You are free to agree or disagree and no one is forcing you to read his blog or subscribe to his opinions.  If what he wrote is particularly offensive to you I think it's *you* that needs a good looking at.
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