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Message: [QUOTE="Worak, post: 1104052, member: 45796"] To the OP: I don't mind Doyle having his (somewhat controversial) opinion, but I find it unwise of him to broadcast in his blog as if he was an expert in politics and/or ethics. Making a difference between "innocent prisoners" and "terrorists" the one being tortured wrongly and the other being tortured rightfully is complete BS. Germany has some history in torturing - most of you will know that - but torture was abolished after WW2 - this was put into the constitution. The allied control board (yes there were US in that, too) strongly insisted on that. Now here a definition on torture (for all that don't know...) [SIZE=1] [/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=Black]Throughout history, torture has often been used as a method of effecting political [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-education"]re-education[/URL]. In the 21st century, torture is widely considered to be a violation of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights"]human rights[/URL], and is declared to be unacceptable by Article 5 of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations"]UN[/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights"]Universal Declaration of Human Rights[/URL]. Signatories of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Geneva_Convention"]Third Geneva Convention[/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention"]Fourth Geneva Convention[/URL] officially agree not to torture protected persons ([URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_of_War"]POWs[/URL] and enemy civilians) in armed conflicts. Torture is also prohibited by the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_Against_Torture"]United Nations Convention Against Torture[/URL], which has been ratified by 145 states.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=Black]National and international legal prohibitions on torture derive from a philosophical consensus that torture and ill-treatment are immoral, as well as being impractical.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture#cite_note-2"][/URL] These international conventions and philosophical propositions notwithstanding, many organizations (e.g. Amnesty International) that monitor abuses of human rights report a widespread use of torture condoned by states in many regions of the world.[/COLOR][/SIZE] And here where it applies to the US: [COLOR=Black] Ending judicial review of torture against terror suspects[/COLOR] [I][SIZE=1][COLOR=Black]Main article: [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act"]Military Commissions Act[/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/I] [SIZE=1][COLOR=Black]In October 2006, the United States enacted the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act_of_2006"]Military Commissions Act of 2006[/URL], authorizing the executive to conduct military tribunals of so-called [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_combatant"]enemy combatants[/URL] and to hold them indefinitely without judicial review under the terms of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus"]habeas corpus[/URL]. Testimony coerced through humiliating or degrading treatment would be admissible in the tribunals. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty_International"]Amnesty International[/URL] and numerous commentators have criticized the Act for approving a system that uses torture, destroying the mechanisms for judicial review created by [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamdan_v._Rumsfeld"]Hamdan v. Rumsfeld[/URL], and creating a parallel legal system below international standards.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_and_the_United_States#cite_note-2"][/URL]Part of the act was an amendment which retroactively rewrote the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Crimes_Act_of_1996"]War Crimes Act[/URL] effectively making [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine"]policy makers[/URL], i.e. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_administration"]politicians[/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_leaders_by_rank"]military leaders[/URL], and those [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commanding_officer"]applying policy[/URL], i.e. CIA interogators and soldiers, no longer subject to legal prosecution under US law [COLOR=Red]for what before the amendment was defined as a war crime, such as torture..[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]Because of that critics describe the MCA as an[/COLOR] [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=Black][COLOR=Red][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty_law"]amnesty law[/URL] for crimes committed in the War on Terror.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1] :deal: [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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