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[QUOTE="doitagainchip, post: 1535316, member: 70749"]
here's a thought. two situations same hand. the first situation. your sat at a loose cash table. 46% of players to the flop. your buy in is 2 dollars on a 2/5 cent blind table. so your on the big blind with king 4. 4 people have limped into this pot. utg+1 has called two people in mid position. and one on the button. flop come's down 7 of clubs 9 of hearts king of spades. utg plus one makes a pot size raise.and everyone calls.you look down at your k 4 off suit. do you.... call and see a turn that you will be scared of. raise see where you are in the hand. or fold.

and the same hand same flop in a tournament. same positions everyone limped
 tell me what you think. usually i fold this spot. and most times i can remember someone shows down a drawn hand. that due to the nature of that player's loose ness. they werent going to lay down once everyone had made that pot sized call. and of course someone just as easily flips k10 
tell me your thoughts. x
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