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Message: [QUOTE="Stu_Ungar, post: 1601779, member: 39779"] Well the reason is because an "bad thinking" villians range is much wider than FDs when we bet the turn we do so tyo charge his FDs but we also fold out his middling hands as we are repping a had which beats them. When we check trough on the turn, he then re-evaluates our range and will likely put us on the draw. So when it misses we extract value form a range of hands we usually folded out on the turn. When his draw bricks and he is on the FD, he is now more likely to bluff as we have under repped our own hand. From my experience of micros, the reason people do not bluff their bricked draws enough s that we have repped a big hand and also created a big pot. Villian usually believes he cant bluff as we will call. Think about some scenario where you rivered a set or 2pair and shoved.. you usually get called by someone who has raised the flop and turn. So if we want our opponent to make mistakes we have to create the conditions to let him make a mistake. Against a passive opponent who will call a FD but never bluff / value bet the river incorrectly then we just bet the turn, but against an agressive opponent who will bluff a high % when we show weakness this should be a more EV play as 80% of the time the draw will brick and we pick off his bluffs. The 20% of the time it hits we actually save ourselves the money we would have bet on the turn. We can even call a % of those if we also believes he bluffs when the FD comes in (although our check through should lead him to believe that FDs are in our range too so he should be bluffing far less in this spot). The final aspect is that we avoid the difficult decision faced should he check-shove the turn. Here we are against a range of sets and FDs. He fuly expects us to bet the turn so we should see unusually large river bets made with his sets trying to regain the missed money on the turn.. so if he shoves the river we can usually fold knowing the strength of his hand. All villian dependent but there are a lot of vilians this would work well with at micros [/QUOTE]

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