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Message: [QUOTE="Steveg1976, post: 1058281, member: 29481"] At pokerstars you have to be playing, at FTP you can data mine. Or at least you used to be able to. I am sure you still can. VPIP/PFR/AF converge pretty quickly. Obviously the more hands you have the better but after 100 hands it is pretty close, at least in my experience. It is a lot of the post flop stats that take a LOT of hands to converge because as you can imagine a villian will only be faced with a check raise in 3bet pot so often (extreme example for illustration :)) [/QUOTE]