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Message: [QUOTE="TPC, post: 1316769, member: 46273"] Expert member doesn't mean he's an expert. LOL If I wanted to figure out the odds of you having KK and someone else having an A in their hand, and then an A hitting the board, I could, but I don't feel like doing it, cause it doesn't really matter. You need to realize a couple of things. Lets say that you are at a 9 seat table, when the cards are dealt (18) that equals 34% of all the cards in the deck, that's just over a third of the deck. KK vs Ax AIPF, KK will win about 70% of the time. ..............equity..... win....... tie.... pots won... pots tied Hand 0: 71.163% 70.95% 00.21% 1005900408 3041226.00 { KK } Hand 1: 28.837% 28.62% 00.21% 405804852 3041226.00 { A2o+ } Now Lets say you are in a tourney, in push fold mode, UTG. You shove now 8 other people are to act after you. You have the second best starting hand!!! You are a huge favorite to win if you are called. However, what is going to call your shove? Most of the time someone Holding an A. Depending on their stack size it could be almost any A. Like I said before, you win this 70% of the time, but you also lose 30% of the time. You must also realize the odds don't change, it doesn't matter if AJ, beat your KK last time, or A7 beat your KK the time before that. Every time you shove or call a shove with KK, you have the sames odds vs Ax. Now if someon called with QQ, your odds are ever better, they only have two outs now, KK Vs QQ will win 80% of the time. ..............equity..... win...... tie... pots won.. pots tied Hand 0: 81.935% 81.70% 00.23% 50363748 143280.00 { KK } Hand 1: 18.065% 17.83% 00.23% 10992636 143280.00 { QQ } So losing 17 70/30's in a row does suck, but it does happen. Just realize it's part of the game. [/QUOTE]

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