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Message: [QUOTE="loafes, post: 2161658, member: 102497"] Initially I thought that poker was 75-80% skill but lately I've changed my opinion on that. Now I think it's about 60% luck vs 40% skill, probably an even bigger luck factor than that. The reason is because there is so much more to the luck than just getting a better hand and getting it good, there are so many factors at play like If I have a big hand will my opponent have a hand that will pay me off or give me some value? will my Aces hold up vs villains 52o is the next card going to be a gin card or is it going to kill my action? plus there are other less mathematical factors involved am I going to get a good seat in the next tournament I play? is mister bigfish going to be at the table when I'm up to doing a session? what if mrbigfish shows up right after I leave the table. what if someone takes a line with a hand they aren't meant to play that somehow losses us value because if he had folded the next guy would have been coolered when the board came out. Basically there is so much going on that we can't control and it all effects events that I think luck really plays a huge factor in poker. However there is some good news in that even if it were only 10% skill it would still be profitable in the long run provided you get the volume because we all get the same amount of luck and good fortune, when we get that dream spot to make a semi bluff or the hand to cooler the other guy. But good players are able to maximize the winnings when luck goes there way and minimize the losses when things go sour. (though I suppose mister rake would have something to say about 10% skill being profitable :p ) And to those people that say that in long run it's 100% skill. I say that's just silly because over those 100 trillion gazillion hands you played, luck was a factor in almost every single one of them [/QUOTE]

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