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Message: [QUOTE="MikeCarasone, post: 5163649, member: 200105"] Unfortunately money makes people do horrible things. It’s definitely happening IMO. That’s why being paranoid may be a good thing. The players have to be vigilant and police the games themselves. When someone sees something that looks fishy they need to let support or a tournament director or the floor know. The poker world is full of degenerates and unscrupulous people. They will cheat, steal, lie, and manipulate in order to get what they want. I’m not saying all players are doing wrong, I believe most are playing on the level, but there’s obviously a select few that violate the rules to gain an edge. Many players have been caught botting, teaming up, multi accounting, and sharing hole cards. There’s many professional players that have been caught, yet the poker world seems to overlook some. It always amazes me when I hear story after story of players scamming money from others. Not honoring loans. Ripping off backers. Intentionally dumping. Selling multiple pieces that end up never being paid. There are “black lists” pages on Facebook that have numerous names of untrustworthy players. They join clubs make a transfer or deposit, then they reverse it once they lose or dump funds to another. Makes me wonder if poker apps are safe. It really is sad. Hard to imagine how some of these people can look themselves in the mirror. Yet they seem to have no problem showing up at tournament after tournament, year after year. I’m happy to see some of the online sites being more proactive in cleaning up the games. It’s a start. If everyone is aware, and watching out for cheaters , hopefully we can prevent some of these things from happening. When you see 15 players from Greece in a SnG it’s smart to have some type of feeling that something may be happening that shouldn’t be. I would hope the sites would have programs that can spot this obvious behavior, but if not there’s nothing wrong with asking the site to investigate. It may be a coincidence, if so then nothing needs to be done. If it is a team then I gotta believe the site will drop the ban hammer, or I would hope so. [/QUOTE]

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