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Message: [QUOTE="dmorris68, post: 1512188, member: 40397"] Because he's saying that in ring games you never face the push/fold decisions that you do in tourneys. At some point in a tournament, skill and complexity (i.e. "playing poker") mostly goes out the window and it's almost all about luck, fold equity on the various bubbles (money bubble, final table bubble, big bump in cash bubbles, etc.), etc. Eventually you just don't have the stack to "play poker," especially in the fast tournaments that are typical of most online tourneys. At the final table the average stack size is almost always short compared to the blinds/antes. Large, slow tournaments like the big buy-in Main Events are generally a different story, but the luck factor still plays a much larger role in a player's success than in cash. Any average Joe off the street (Chris Moneymaker anyone?) can run good and take down a single big tourney to become an overnight millionaire, but making a million and hanging on to it playing cash games is quite another thing. Witness how rare the big pros actually take down these large field tourneys, while the top cash players are consistently at the top of their game with rarely an amateur (or even a tourney pro) breaking through them. You find that most solid cash players do better in tourneys than the other way around. I would say tournaments do throw in an added complexity of forced gear changing. Changing gears is important in cash games too, based on the players you're facing, but in tourney's it's always forced on you due to the blinds/antes, bubble situations, and different cash situations. So I wouldn't say that tourneys are without their own complexity, they just usually devolve into something that is often decided by coin flip rather than skill. In that sense, a ring game never changes and you must play consistently well all the time to be successful. This push/fold scenario never happens in ring games, unless you're a SS strategist, or a fish with your whole BR on the table who just spazzes off the last of it. With ring, you must "play poker" constantly. [/QUOTE]

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